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		<title>By: Martin K</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/the-age-of-digital-baroque/comment-page-1/#comment-152770</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oliver, you voice exactly the reason I never started blogging in the first place. A blog is not about yourself, it&#039;s about what you know and what you have to say. If you&#039;re in a position where you get great insights into how the world works, blog it. If you just rehash what others say, shut up. On the Internet, people can go to your source with a few clicks, regardless of whether you provide them the link. Unless you are a source, a blog is pointless.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blogging is here to stay, but there is an ongoing healthy transition from fashionable to a tool for people who have something to say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Microblogging is worse, because people can&#039;t stay on topic on twitter. It mixes information you want, like business insight from someone in IT, with things you didn&#039;t want to know about the person, like &quot;my son just gave me a foot massage&quot;. Bad signal to noise ratio.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, you voice exactly the reason I never started blogging in the first place. A blog is not about yourself, it&#8217;s about what you know and what you have to say. If you&#8217;re in a position where you get great insights into how the world works, blog it. If you just rehash what others say, shut up. On the Internet, people can go to your source with a few clicks, regardless of whether you provide them the link. Unless you are a source, a blog is pointless.</p>

<p>Blogging is here to stay, but there is an ongoing healthy transition from fashionable to a tool for people who have something to say.</p>

<p>Microblogging is worse, because people can&#8217;t stay on topic on twitter. It mixes information you want, like business insight from someone in IT, with things you didn&#8217;t want to know about the person, like &#8220;my son just gave me a foot massage&#8221;. Bad signal to noise ratio.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alex Cheek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Cheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 04:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Self expression, whether for vanity&#039;s sake or otherwise, is probably a natural part of the human condition. Is it so different than the self-centered urge to go to to the cafe for a cuppa? Is it really any more public?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self expression, whether for vanity&#8217;s sake or otherwise, is probably a natural part of the human condition. Is it so different than the self-centered urge to go to to the cafe for a cuppa? Is it really any more public?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dawie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to agree fully. Blogs have merely become a tool that are used for shameless self affirmation. People are so caught up in finding their purpose, importance or individuality that any tool that can quickly give them positive feedback is consumed at concerning rates. The internet has made people realize that there are many other people who feel, think, dress, eat, talk the same way we do. It has made us realize we are not as unique as we wish to be. Blogs have merely become a symptom of our need to be seen as an individual.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree fully. Blogs have merely become a tool that are used for shameless self affirmation. People are so caught up in finding their purpose, importance or individuality that any tool that can quickly give them positive feedback is consumed at concerning rates. The internet has made people realize that there are many other people who feel, think, dress, eat, talk the same way we do. It has made us realize we are not as unique as we wish to be. Blogs have merely become a symptom of our need to be seen as an individual.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Christian Tietze</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/the-age-of-digital-baroque/comment-page-1/#comment-152459</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Tietze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Your blog […] is active at all times, the real problem, however, is that the whole thing consists of endless ReBlogs and no genuine, new content.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From what I understand, lots of sciences rely on &quot;recycling&quot; and combinining other peoples work to create something &quot;new&quot; on top of all that. It&#039;s some kind of dialogue -- which is not necessary in a heavily-connected environment like the web. What do you all want the web to be? It&#039;s not books, after all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Knowledge can be accumulated in good ol&#039; libraries. You could also rely on some information available online as well, talking Wikipedia or http://plato.stanford.edu/. If you write something genuine, then it&#039;s some kind of article, it&#039;s real content. When someone else blogs about your text, adding her opinion to a hyperlink only, she may as well post a comment to the article itself. When she wants to control the comment&#039;s availability (extending a website&#039;s possible discontinuation), she puts the comment on her blog and hopes to get a PingBack/TrackBack. I think that&#039;s the purpose of these &quot;services&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t want to differentiate between blog posts and articles. For me, both should have a lot in common. In fact, iA does a great job publishing what I&#039;d call articles. This isn&#039;t a &quot;traditional&quot; blog, this is not about opinion only and thank God it&#039;s not about &quot;ReBlogging&quot;. This very article here is an invitation for us to participate in a discussion, I think. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I think you do well by &quot;forcing&quot; people to identify themselves, Oliver. Look at Facebook/MySpace/...: people publish lots of personal details. When they want to add valuable content to a discussion, they will identify themselves for they do not fear to have personal details available online anymore. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We should push development a step further: control and own everything you put online with your personal website (beyond just OpenID authentication). My comment should be stored and appear on my website automatically, showing where I leave traces whenever I want to. This way I (hopefully :)) add value to your website by commenting on your articles i.e. participating in the public discussion while I add content to my own website as well. For narcisstic reasons, I&#039;m sure, but that doesn&#039;t matter a lot to me anyway. I&#039;m okay with that :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I imagine a protocol/service/API on which all that relies. I click &quot;submit comment&quot;, identify on my website which will receive the text body and a URL afterwards for permanent storage. When it&#039;s done, iA might request a few personal details (like my name) which I grant access to and store an instance of my comment here, connecting it to this article. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then someone else comes around and disagrees with me. This is a reply to both my comment and the article on iA. Her comment will be made available to iA the same way mine was only this time my website will be notified of a reply as well. Pingbacks/Trackbacks kind of do this already to connect blog posts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lots of people will probably not see any advantage in this kind of connection, but I think we narcisstic tech-savvy web worker will benefit. I imagine everything online being open in the above mentioned way: everything will be an item you can aggregate to your personal web profile. This is just beyond Facebook and MySpace. I think it&#039;s the inevitable result of current technology (think OpenID, OpenSocial, XFN, ...) and the heavily-connected blogosphere.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hopefully I didn&#039;t get too much off-topic, all this kind of evolved while I was writing. I hope you don&#039;t mind for your initial post was something really personal and I begun talking tech here :S&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>&#8220;Your blog […] is active at all times, the real problem, however, is that the whole thing consists of endless ReBlogs and no genuine, new content.&#8221;</blockquote>

<p>From what I understand, lots of sciences rely on &#8220;recycling&#8221; and combinining other peoples work to create something &#8220;new&#8221; on top of all that. It&#8217;s some kind of dialogue &#8212; which is not necessary in a heavily-connected environment like the web. What do you all want the web to be? It&#8217;s not books, after all.</p>

<p>Knowledge can be accumulated in good ol&#8217; libraries. You could also rely on some information available online as well, talking Wikipedia or <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/" rel="nofollow">http://plato.stanford.edu/</a>. If you write something genuine, then it&#8217;s some kind of article, it&#8217;s real content. When someone else blogs about your text, adding her opinion to a hyperlink only, she may as well post a comment to the article itself. When she wants to control the comment&#8217;s availability (extending a website&#8217;s possible discontinuation), she puts the comment on her blog and hopes to get a PingBack/TrackBack. I think that&#8217;s the purpose of these &#8220;services&#8221;.</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t want to differentiate between blog posts and articles. For me, both should have a lot in common. In fact, iA does a great job publishing what I&#8217;d call articles. This isn&#8217;t a &#8220;traditional&#8221; blog, this is not about opinion only and thank God it&#8217;s not about &#8220;ReBlogging&#8221;. This very article here is an invitation for us to participate in a discussion, I think. </p>

<p>And I think you do well by &#8220;forcing&#8221; people to identify themselves, Oliver. Look at Facebook/MySpace/&#8230;: people publish lots of personal details. When they want to add valuable content to a discussion, they will identify themselves for they do not fear to have personal details available online anymore. </p>

<p>We should push development a step further: control and own everything you put online with your personal website (beyond just OpenID authentication). My comment should be stored and appear on my website automatically, showing where I leave traces whenever I want to. This way I (hopefully :)) add value to your website by commenting on your articles i.e. participating in the public discussion while I add content to my own website as well. For narcisstic reasons, I&#8217;m sure, but that doesn&#8217;t matter a lot to me anyway. I&#8217;m okay with that :)</p>

<p>I imagine a protocol/service/API on which all that relies. I click &#8220;submit comment&#8221;, identify on my website which will receive the text body and a URL afterwards for permanent storage. When it&#8217;s done, iA might request a few personal details (like my name) which I grant access to and store an instance of my comment here, connecting it to this article. </p>

<p>Then someone else comes around and disagrees with me. This is a reply to both my comment and the article on iA. Her comment will be made available to iA the same way mine was only this time my website will be notified of a reply as well. Pingbacks/Trackbacks kind of do this already to connect blog posts.</p>

<p>Lots of people will probably not see any advantage in this kind of connection, but I think we narcisstic tech-savvy web worker will benefit. I imagine everything online being open in the above mentioned way: everything will be an item you can aggregate to your personal web profile. This is just beyond Facebook and MySpace. I think it&#8217;s the inevitable result of current technology (think OpenID, OpenSocial, XFN, &#8230;) and the heavily-connected blogosphere.</p>

<p>Hopefully I didn&#8217;t get too much off-topic, all this kind of evolved while I was writing. I hope you don&#8217;t mind for your initial post was something really personal and I begun talking tech here :S</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Josef Go-Oco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josef Go-Oco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Even if lots had been said, it is important to see that memory can be a very frail thing. That&#039;s why it is important to rediscover things, and perhaps see them with brand-new pink glasses.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps, we have the need to express (in this case, writing) because in expressing, we manifest our &quot;Dasein&quot;. And as a human, is it not natural to propagate and promulgate one&#039;s self, that we may be remembered, that we may be eternal? Of course that is silly. However, it is human nature to seek the infinite, even if he is doomed to fail.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if lots had been said, it is important to see that memory can be a very frail thing. That&#8217;s why it is important to rediscover things, and perhaps see them with brand-new pink glasses.</p>

<p>Perhaps, we have the need to express (in this case, writing) because in expressing, we manifest our &#8220;Dasein&#8221;. And as a human, is it not natural to propagate and promulgate one&#8217;s self, that we may be remembered, that we may be eternal? Of course that is silly. However, it is human nature to seek the infinite, even if he is doomed to fail.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are right. It is very hard to write anything really meaningful and useful these days as lots has been said / writen and most things are very relative and heavily depend on context. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As we move towards the age of &#039;self&#039; more and more, a customised solution is becoming more and more the future. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How can you write customised book for a group of ... 2-3 people? Which IA (I am an IA by the way) is going to really take your points on board? How many points are actually worthy of taking on board considering how different projects are? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I feel your pain.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. It is very hard to write anything really meaningful and useful these days as lots has been said / writen and most things are very relative and heavily depend on context. </p>

<p>As we move towards the age of &#8216;self&#8217; more and more, a customised solution is becoming more and more the future. </p>

<p>How can you write customised book for a group of &#8230; 2-3 people? Which IA (I am an IA by the way) is going to really take your points on board? How many points are actually worthy of taking on board considering how different projects are? </p>

<p>I feel your pain.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stadsbiografie Brussel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stadsbiografie Brussel &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Verstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] intussen stuur ik u graag door naar de blog van Olivier Reichenstein, waar altijd interessant leesvoer te vinden valt. Deze keer over het feit dat het blogfenomeen al [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] intussen stuur ik u graag door naar de blog van Olivier Reichenstein, waar altijd interessant leesvoer te vinden valt. Deze keer over het feit dat het blogfenomeen al [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: No Narcissism in Networking &#124; Chris Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Narcissism in Networking &#124; Chris Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] this post at Information Architects Japan, the author writes on &#8220;The Age of Digital Baroque.&#8221; In [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very good thoughts on writing and ego, but I fail to see how it&#039;s Baroque.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of the most important, and generally underlooked, aspects of Baroque is the conspicuous expenditure of wealth and power to produce art. Without enormous wealth and exploitable labor put to work on behalf of that wealth, IMHO it&#039;s hard to call the form Baroque. While Baroque is marked by excessive quantity of ornament, Baroque doesn&#039;t equal excess unless it is an excess of beauty.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good thoughts on writing and ego, but I fail to see how it&#8217;s Baroque.</p>

<p>One of the most important, and generally underlooked, aspects of Baroque is the conspicuous expenditure of wealth and power to produce art. Without enormous wealth and exploitable labor put to work on behalf of that wealth, IMHO it&#8217;s hard to call the form Baroque. While Baroque is marked by excessive quantity of ornament, Baroque doesn&#8217;t equal excess unless it is an excess of beauty.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Joran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Coxi: It&#039;s the fundamentalists who use words such as &quot;fundamentalist&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coxi: It&#8217;s the fundamentalists who use words such as &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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