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		<title>By: Dan Curtis</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/a-word-on-design-value/comment-page-1/#comment-150423</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;unenthroned hypostase refectionary glecoma sachamaker episcleritis fenouillet derogately
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&lt;p&gt;日本語&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unenthroned hypostase refectionary glecoma sachamaker episcleritis fenouillet derogately
<a href="http://www.notary-92127.com/" rel="nofollow">San Diego Notary &#8211; 92127</a>
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<p>日本語</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: beth</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/a-word-on-design-value/comment-page-1/#comment-86132</link>
		<dc:creator>beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think part of the reason people expect to pay so little for Web and IA related services, is they assume web professionals are nothing more than a human extension of a computer program. They don&#039;t realize they&#039;re also paying for a lot of critical thought and analysis, which is a shame because obviously that&#039;s the real value.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the reason people expect to pay so little for Web and IA related services, is they assume web professionals are nothing more than a human extension of a computer program. They don&#8217;t realize they&#8217;re also paying for a lot of critical thought and analysis, which is a shame because obviously that&#8217;s the real value.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Oliver Reichenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Reichenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Darrel, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a new one. Some dude calls me. He likes &quot;iA design and concepts and stuff&quot;, and he &quot;absolutely&quot; wants to work with us. BUT! Actually, he is kind of a designer himself (owner of a mid sized boring enterprise office), and he has pretty good ideas with &quot;links and flash and movies and 2.0&quot;, so, &quot;to be honest&quot;, he&#039;d &quot;rather work together on the designs from the start&quot;... Which, of course would be a &quot;smart way to keep cost reasonable&quot;. Yeah, sure. Hasta la vista.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Darrel, </p>

<p>I have a new one. Some dude calls me. He likes &#8220;iA design and concepts and stuff&#8221;, and he &#8220;absolutely&#8221; wants to work with us. BUT! Actually, he is kind of a designer himself (owner of a mid sized boring enterprise office), and he has pretty good ideas with &#8220;links and flash and movies and 2.0&#8243;, so, &#8220;to be honest&#8221;, he&#8217;d &#8220;rather work together on the designs from the start&#8221;&#8230; Which, of course would be a &#8220;smart way to keep cost reasonable&#8221;. Yeah, sure. Hasta la vista.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/a-word-on-design-value/comment-page-1/#comment-86011</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Had a gig just like this. Client wanted me to help &#039;flush out their concepts&#039; into a better UI based off of their PPT slides and then they would send it all to India.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After about 2 rounds of me asking them &#039;what, exactly, did you intend this widget to do&#039; only to hear &#039;we don&#039;t know yet, don&#039;t worry about it&#039; I realized that they didn&#039;t want me to design anything, but rather just slice up their PPT presentation into HTML and ship if off.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One of the few times I politely stated &quot;I don&#039;t think this is working out and I don&#039;t think I&#039;m the best fit for your needs&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a gig just like this. Client wanted me to help &#8216;flush out their concepts&#8217; into a better UI based off of their PPT slides and then they would send it all to India.</p>

<p>After about 2 rounds of me asking them &#8216;what, exactly, did you intend this widget to do&#8217; only to hear &#8216;we don&#8217;t know yet, don&#8217;t worry about it&#8217; I realized that they didn&#8217;t want me to design anything, but rather just slice up their PPT presentation into HTML and ship if off.</p>

<p>One of the few times I politely stated &#8220;I don&#8217;t think this is working out and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m the best fit for your needs&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: PikeMurdy &#187; Design Value</title>
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		<dc:creator>PikeMurdy &#187; Design Value</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] A Word on Design Value [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Word on Design Value [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel Szuc</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/a-word-on-design-value/comment-page-1/#comment-76688</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Szuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Often folks look at design as one piece without understanding how it may relate to a larger strategy OR perhaps its the difference betweeen small and big thinkers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often folks look at design as one piece without understanding how it may relate to a larger strategy OR perhaps its the difference betweeen small and big thinkers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Amos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Amos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was frakking hilarious. I&#039;ve written a response or two along similar lines when I used to freelance, but you know - even in big corporate environments you still find a few clients with attitudes like that. The mind boggles.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was frakking hilarious. I&#8217;ve written a response or two along similar lines when I used to freelance, but you know &#8211; even in big corporate environments you still find a few clients with attitudes like that. The mind boggles.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: refactor.it</title>
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		<dc:creator>refactor.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Bell’aneddoto sulle aspettative di spesa di un progetto web, che può avere validità generale. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bell’aneddoto sulle aspettative di spesa di un progetto web, che può avere validità generale. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Christophe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christophe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Similar to placing the right value on design, I think the same should also be said for development/programming. Yes, it is kind of possible to get the job done by using cheap labor in India and China, but tell me which really successful sites have done this? All the big ones are using smart coders who tend not to come from these areas (just look at all the big sites on the web). To really make something that is successful and does well in the long run, it is more about who you hire and more emphasis should be placed on the person (and their way of thinking) rather than their skills.  Anyone can learn to &quot;design&quot; and anyone can learn to &quot;program&quot;, but it is the personal approach, and the personal way that one goes about tackling a project that really separates the true stars in the industry from those that just work in it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar to placing the right value on design, I think the same should also be said for development/programming. Yes, it is kind of possible to get the job done by using cheap labor in India and China, but tell me which really successful sites have done this? All the big ones are using smart coders who tend not to come from these areas (just look at all the big sites on the web). To really make something that is successful and does well in the long run, it is more about who you hire and more emphasis should be placed on the person (and their way of thinking) rather than their skills.  Anyone can learn to &#8220;design&#8221; and anyone can learn to &#8220;program&#8221;, but it is the personal approach, and the personal way that one goes about tackling a project that really separates the true stars in the industry from those that just work in it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Oliver Reichenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.informationarchitects.jp/en/a-word-on-design-value/comment-page-1/#comment-61968</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Reichenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good point Kilian, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The core problem in our business is that most good creative work comes from people that don&#039;t fit into standard corporate culture. It is in the nature of the creative mind to be daring and swim against the stream. This is especially relevant here in Japan. It is mostly freelancers or small companies that do the good work for bigger companies. I know a couple of designers that have to passwordprotect their portfolio as it would cloud the credibility of big agencies if people knew who really did that logo, that website, that campaign.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Big agencies have the contacts and the power. They hire freelancers, give them a couple of coins, and sell the work for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/london-olympics-chiefs-castigated-for-costly-games-logo/2007/06/05/1180809518427.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;horrrrendous money&lt;/a&gt;. Now within the new media consulting business, that vampirism has reached a new dimension.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is pretty obvious if someone uses your creative work without paying you, but it is very very difficult to find out if someone used your know-how and sold it to a client.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have had a couple of situations, where big companies asked me millions of technical, conceptual, strategic questions with the prospect of a big 100% sure job, and then somehow the job never happened - never happened for me, but - as I then heard through the grapewine - happened for them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now small companies often don&#039;t deliver good work, as they cannot afford to hire good designers or use good freelancers (the best designer at a small design company is often the owner), and/or they don&#039;t have the jobs, the name or the power to trick good people into working for low wages or even for free.&lt;/p&gt; 

&lt;p&gt;Design is not a good business, talent only won&#039;t get you very far, unless you&#039;re talented and famous you just have to do it for the fun of it - and deal with the vampires and tirekickers as good as you can.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Kilian, </p>

<p>The core problem in our business is that most good creative work comes from people that don&#8217;t fit into standard corporate culture. It is in the nature of the creative mind to be daring and swim against the stream. This is especially relevant here in Japan. It is mostly freelancers or small companies that do the good work for bigger companies. I know a couple of designers that have to passwordprotect their portfolio as it would cloud the credibility of big agencies if people knew who really did that logo, that website, that campaign.</p>

<p>Big agencies have the contacts and the power. They hire freelancers, give them a couple of coins, and sell the work for <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/london-olympics-chiefs-castigated-for-costly-games-logo/2007/06/05/1180809518427.html" rel="nofollow">horrrrendous money</a>. Now within the new media consulting business, that vampirism has reached a new dimension.</p>

<p>It is pretty obvious if someone uses your creative work without paying you, but it is very very difficult to find out if someone used your know-how and sold it to a client.</p>

<p>I have had a couple of situations, where big companies asked me millions of technical, conceptual, strategic questions with the prospect of a big 100% sure job, and then somehow the job never happened &#8211; never happened for me, but &#8211; as I then heard through the grapewine &#8211; happened for them.</p>

<p>Now small companies often don&#8217;t deliver good work, as they cannot afford to hire good designers or use good freelancers (the best designer at a small design company is often the owner), and/or they don&#8217;t have the jobs, the name or the power to trick good people into working for low wages or even for free.</p> 

<p>Design is not a good business, talent only won&#8217;t get you very far, unless you&#8217;re talented and famous you just have to do it for the fun of it &#8211; and deal with the vampires and tirekickers as good as you can.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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